Should I take cigarettes away from my mother, who has Alzheimer's, for fear she'll start a fire?
Smokers with Alzheimer's are a real challenge because, with advancing age, they're already at a point when there are a lot of things they can no longer do. A caregiver always needs to be aware of that. The goal is to help your mother maintain as much of her independence as possible. Still, that has its limits.
When someone has Alzheimer's or another type of dementia, the top priorities become safety and health. You don't want your mom to set the house on fire. (Likewise, you don't want her to develop cancer, although a lifelong smoking habit has, of course, already contributed to that possibility.)
What you can do is take the cigarettes away when you're not with your mother. I'd let her smoke at other times, but only when someone else is with her. Don't make cigarettes available otherwise. And if she can't drive, she can't buy another pack easily -- or maybe at all.
I'd also look into information about smoking cessation, even at her age. A nicotine patch is often successful. If your mom has early dementia, she might benefit from a cessation program through a local hospital. With advanced dementia, it's hard for her to understand why smoking is a health issue or why she should stop. For elderly longtime smokers, the risk of cancer will already be there regardless of whether they quit; you have to consider whether smoking is a quality-of-life habit for them. Some dementia patients even forget that they ever smoked.
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This is a good answer. Her safety is a concern. As someone who works in smoking cessation, talk with her health care providers. Nicotine replacement is one option, but Rx's such as Chantix, are also available. If she has mild dementia, a call to 1-800-QuitNow is helpful for over the phone counseling. Several sessions can be provided. If dementia is profound, this wont help. A combination of these approaches is the most successful, according to research. Regarding NRT, a combination patch and gum or lozenge is most successful.
It is a dreadful problem. My elderly mother, age 92.5, smokes a pack a day. She has dementia which is progressing. Smoking is her only pleasure in life and I fear that removing her cigarettes will hasten her decline and her death. Her doctors have all said at this point it's not realistic to expect her to quit. I also expect that she would pester her caregiver constantly for cigarettes. Now she hoards them, and carries a pack around, one in each pocket of her pants. It's the most difficult situation I have ever faced with her and there is no easy solution. I worry about her smoking constantly. While in the hospital last year she was given nicotine patches and yet she asked for cigarettes the entire stay in the hospital and refused to accept that they were not allowed. She is beyond giving up smoking and I cannot get through to her or reason with her in any way. I am about to move her from an assisted living facility which has a smoking patio to a smaller situation, a board and care, where she will be visible at all times while she smokes outside in the back yard. I will suggest that they take her cigarettes away from her at bedtime and othewise keep an eye on her throughout each day.
Having moved my mom from assisted living to a board and care, she has become agitated, angry because she doesn't have physical possession of a carton of cigarettes, and has spent the bulk of each day outside smoking, almost non stop. Her cigarettes are taken from her at bedtime; still, she smokes at least 25 cigarettes a day. She asks for a pack for each pocket, but the caregiver has refused that; she is given only one pack at a time. Her dementia is beyond mild; it is advanced but not extreme. She is able to dress and feed herself. I believe her to have vascular dementia. Would you suggest what type of specialist would specifically deal with management of smoking, with nicotine replacement therapy. Would her neurologist be the most appropriate? She already takes 20 mg. of Lexapro and 10 mg. of Aricept. She sleeps pretty well through the night but her waking hours are all about smoking. It's become a huge concern. Thanks.
THE SMOKING ARTICLE WAS VERY GOOD INFORMATION, MY MOM IS A SMOKER AND I AM ALWAYS WATCHING HER JUST IN CASE.
I've posted here earlier when my 92 year old mom was smoking up to 2 packs a day. She was prescribed Seroquel to deal with her combative behavior and it worked. She continues on that medication, along with Lexapro and Aricept, and she is a wide awake but mellow and complaint resident now. The problem has miraculously resolved itself with the help of some very skilled caregivers. I had to move my mother to a Memory Unit in an Assisted Living Facility. They agreed that she could have 4 cigarettes per day under their supervision. They made an exception for her. For the first several months she asked repeatedly all day long for a cigarette. They patiently distracted her by redirecting her attention or promising a cigarette after dinner, whatever. It didn't stop her begging for a smoke over and over but now, at age 94 and with advancing dementia, she has almost forgotten that she's a smoker. She never asks me about cigarettes or if she mentions them I too have learned to distract her. She continues to ask for a smoke after dinner, before bedtime, and I believe that evening caregivers will usually allow her one cigarette which satisfies her. I'm looking for the day soon when she will be smoking no cigarettes ever. The progressing dementia seems to have taken care of the smoking problem and she's a childlike but happy 94 year old at this point in time. I might add that the idea of a smoking cessation program seems like a futile approach when dealing with an elderly smoker who suffers from dementia. Why put yourself through the expense and frustration?
I also worry about the smoking issue with my Mom, 72 and mid plus alz. She lives with me and I work. Taking the smokes away, she will try walk to a store. I now put out a pack at a time to limit her sometimes chain smoking. when she thinks she is low on cigs she smokes less. The less she smokes, i am hoping the less she wants to, or forgets she does. I have an alarm system set up in the house, that also has a fire alarm notification in place.
Mom is 97 with severe deminchia and most of the time if the smokes aren't around she forgets about them, thank God. i had to take them from her cause her sight is so bad, she was missing the ahhtray and burning the furnature. i worried about withdrawl but she goes for days and does not seem to bother her,
I'm having the same problem. My father is 72. His doctors lists him as having severe dementia. He had quit smoking for many years but 5 years ago he was offered him a cigarette. It's been a nightmare since. He was an alcoholic and will drink beer till he can't function if possible, but right now he isn't asking for beer. He is asking for cigarettes. He is banned from the stores near his home because he is constantly going there. I don't know how he acts there. We got him out of jail and paid a lawyer 7500 to deal with all that 2 years ago. He was good for awhile, but he got picked up for going to the store. One judge let him go after speaking to my mother and sent him home in a patrol car. He didn't ring the bell. He walked right back to that store to buy whatever he had collected money to buy. He usually looks for cigarettes that are half smoked and will smoke them. I know disgusting but that's how bad it is. We've tried Chantix in the past but it didn't help. We've tried patches in the past it didn't help but I'm ready to try again. I can't have him smoking in my house. He shouldn't be smoking around my mom. He burns carpets, beds, blankets, shoes, clothing, so it has come to a point where it has to stop no matter how mad he gets at me. As for that store, it must have been a different clerk because they didn't call the police. Fast forward two weeks later, he's back at the store. This time they took him to jail for criminal trespassing. I left him there Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun, and Mon. Monday only because I was working with bail bondman who would let me remove him from the county and not be at his home address because he will just go back to that store. Along with working to get his medical records to prove he has dementia and try to get the charges dismissed. I had never read the doctor's letter till recently that said he had severe dementia and has no concept of his legal situation. He can't go back home because we will end up in the same place. It's a misdemeanor so I thought they would have set a fine by Monday that we could pay and he'd leave but the DA said they were booked and he could be transferred 400 miles away to another county if I left him because of overcrowding. I didn't ask my husband who is now upset with me for bringing my father home with me. I had to make a decision right then and there so I said okay I'll bail him out if someone will let me take him to a different county. I have to get him to stop wanting the cigarettes so he will stop leaving and getting lost or get banned from another store. My mom is 72 so she's trying to figure out what to do. I say it's time for him to be in a facility but she won't agree to it. I don't think she understands how his behavior of smoking is making her sicker, how she can't keep paying lawyers for a misdemeanor charge, or live with him burning down the house. She's 72. Her mind is pretty good but her health isn't. She didn't want me to bring him to my house but I said we can't chance him going back to that store. I've scheduled an appointment with the a psychiatrist because I can see her sooner but it's still 2 weeks away and will be scheduling one with a neurologist for medications. I think it is time for seroquel for sure because he is combative. When we asked about aircept two years ago, the doctor said that it wouldn't help. I'm trying to remember that when we did try it at first, it agitated him, but I was not with him enough to write down what was happening. He was put on Celexa but that does nothing. I think it might have even agitated him more too. His anxieties are extreme. He paces back and forth. He takes things apart constantly. He does a lot of damage to the house. Right now, he's only wearing socks cause his intent is to go to the store. I live 2 miles from a store but I know he can walk that far but I'm not sure he will do it in socks but you never know.
I am an Occupatioal Therapist in a Skilled Nursing Facility with a Short Term Unit and the smoking issue takes up alot of staff time and places our residents in danger. I had to have unexpected Open Heart surgery last year and of course was told not to smoke. I found out about E-cigarettes and my MDs okay'd me using them. I now provide education on the use of E-cigarettes and work part time as a distributor for a very good company, Patients are safe, staff does not have to go outside and supervise smoking and and settle smoking related disagrements. Cigarette smoking is a disgusting, filthy habit. However when you are under alot of stress, that is the last thing we are able to give up,
my mom is 75 and in stage 4 alzheimers. she has smoked a pack a day since she was 14, sometimes a few less. she is now approaching 30-40 cigarettes a day. As her live-in caretaker, I am sick to my stomach and use an asthma inhaler living with that stench. Attempts to get her to smoke outside fail. She smokes in one room with the door shut sometimes, but that only makes the opening of that door horrendous each time she emerges, and the chain smoking makes her and her mouth smell so bad it is unrelentingly putrid to be around. i bought her an e-cigarette and she seemed to like it at first and tried to cut down using it, but then she started seeing it as a real cigarette and kept trying to light it with a lighter. we live together very well otherwise, but this cigarette thing is disgusting and she will never ever ever ever quit [meaning if i take them from her she will freak out and life will be unbearable. she refuses patches or gums etc.] as of tonight i think she may also be suddenly sundowning... so she sits on her bed and smokes and smokes. i am in smokers hell. thank you for listening.
My mom is 78 years old and has Dementia. Today her cigs disappeared. I am her primary caregiver and I make the decisions that she is unable to make especially when it comes to her health! COME ON PEOPLE ITS A NO BRAINER! I love my Mom with all my heart.
I was told by my father's family doctor to never give them Chantix if they have alzheimer's or dementia it will cause them more damage such as more outburst etc...
Well your 78 year old mother and my now deceased 95 year old chain smoking mother are two different people with two different daughters. Just disappearing my mother's cigarettes was not an option. She was non stop feisty, obsessed, belligerent and combative. She broke into locked cabinets at a board and care, she smoked in her room in assisted living despite the rules and we had many many battles over cigarettes the last 5 years of her life Only after she suffered a series of TIA's and was placed in a skilled nursing facility, progressing slowly to her death, was she slipping into a fog and out of the reach of cigarettes and cigarette smoke until she finally forget about smoking the last 9 months of her life. The four years priors she needed hands-on supervision while smoking. It was a progressive process and certainly not so simplistic and easy as your naive "no-brainer" comment implies. You have no idea.
Anon you are totally right. I would guess that the cigarette disappearance was met with pleading, begging, 1000s of repeated reasoning sessions, etc.etc. I am the one who wrote about the stench and living in cigarette hell. It is a year later and she has just turned the corner into stage 5 and a half or so. She was able to properly dispose of her cigarettes for a while, now if i leave the room she smokes where i forbid it, then hides the newly squashed butts in wonderful places like tissue boxes and paper towels and today even her own pants pocket. So today I finally took all the cigs and all the lighters and all the hidden cigs and matches she has been hoarding without my noticing. I told her she can have one at a time and that i will give her a new one every hour or 90 mins [she smokes a pack a day and always has, so trying to cut her by half if i can and hope she gradually "forgets" she smokes] and that there must be a butt in the ashtray each time i give her a new one [to keep her from hoarding half smoked ones under the couch, as i found last week.] I have explained it, reasoned with her about it, been loving, been ugly at least 50 times today because she forgets the conversation within 5 minutes and asks me again why she cant have her cigarettes. I am convinced her Alzheimers would be 95 percent more bearable if she were a non-smoker, but the repercussions of removal of cigs is perhaps a worse experience. Dunno, I [daughter and lone live-in caretaker] take it as it comes.
I love my mother with all my heart too but this mother doesn't resemble my real mother in any way shape or form. Her mother burned to death in bed when my mom was eight from... you guessed it - smoking and falling asleep. She was the most fire conscious person I knew. It's a terrible disease and hard on everyone concerned.
I totally understand the responders concerns. My 87 year old mother lives with me. She smokes, always under my close supervision. I have found that if I keep the lighter, she is sometimes ok with just puffing on a un-lit cig. Not always, but enough where it has cut back on her smoking.
If her dementia is not too bad, perhaps explain that her habit is also harming her family. Third hand smoke is a big problem, even if she is not smoking around you. You are still being exposed to the carcinogenic chemicals that have been deposited all around the house even if she does not smoke with you around.
I have been spending increasing amounts of time caring for my 85 year old disabled mother at her one bedroom flat in an assisted living facility. She smokes, but I am the one with a persistent cough; it never occurs to her that I am sacrificing my health to take care of her. When I moved her out of her last flat seven years ago there were an alarming number of dog ends around her bed that had burned the carpet. I had just lost a good friend who died after falling asleep with a cigarette; my mother could have burned the place down. Her only concession in her new flat was that she would only smoke by the window in the living room. It was not long before I found burn marks on the new carpets as she is totally unconscious about where the smoldering embers of her roll-ups fall. The ash blown in the window get on the bottom of her feet and she treks this filth all around the carpet. I put a fire retardant mat by the window, but at some point I just gave up trying to scrub her carpets clean. Her memory has been deteriorating over the past year and I have had to spend more time caring for her although I do not have a room of my own or even a bed. I have caught her smoking in the bedroom and once in the bathroom as she conveniently forgets that this is not what she agreed to. I feel it is a lot more dangerous for her to smoke in the bedroom and she is more likely to go back to smoking in bed. She has just been diagnosed with dementia and placed on a medication to slow the progression of the disease. She only started smoking at age 40, but got addicted to strong Spanish cigarets. She quit briefly after a hypnotherapy session where she was motivated to stop before knee replacement therapy. This lasted for six months before her chain smoking friends coaxed her back into the fold. Hypnotherapy will only work if the person really wants to stop smoking. I then tried to switch her to Honeyblend cigarets with no nicotine. This worked beter than expected at least for a while. I wanted to reduce the addictive component to get her off smoking for good. She now calls them "fake cigarettes" and tries to make me feel like a sadist for getting her weaned off the real thing. I have also bought her an electronic cigarette that is without nicotine as she appears more addicted to the habit than anything else. Most of the e-cigarette companies try to get people to continue with nicotine, but Green Smoke and a few others offer zero nicotine. If you choose one with a Tabasco flavor and do not tell them that there is zero nicotine the placebo effect may help convince them they are getting what they crave. I need to do this because although her lungs are good, my mother has really poor circulation in her lower legs and, with continued circulatory compromise, this can lead to amputations. This is a very real possibility that could leave her a lot more dependent on constant care. Purple is a lovely color, but not for your feet! She just had a Squamous Cell Carcinoma removed from her shin and I have really forced her to cut back drastically knowing that she could sabotage the healing and have an open wound on her leg for months on end. This has been met with a huge amount of emotional blackmail, pleading, tears and "just put me in a home." She knows if she did go in a home she would have to smoke outside or not at all. We have been allocated a large flat together and I want to set new rules for the place I must share with her. This is not just because much as I love her, I am sick of choking down second-hand smoke that exacerbates my constant cough. I cannot trust her to confine her smoking to the living room window as she is already confused enough to abandon that concession. I do not want to find any more tell-tale burns in our new carpeting or have her get to the point where she thinks it is OK to smoke in bed. I think when an elderly or compromised person starts habitually burning carpeting, clothes and furniture the only safe option is a switch to e-cigarets anywhere indoors and only smoking real cigarets outside. The slow down towards quitting is inevitable if they are nearing residential care. Even if I did want to carefully watch my mother puffing away it would not stop her sneaking cigarets that put her and others at risk. The major battle is overcoming the nicotine and social addiction and I do not thing patches help to reduce cravings. After my personal battle with trying to get my mother to quit I would only recommend hypnotism if the person has agreed a willingness to quit. Otherwise I would recommend the Honeyblend nicotine free cigarettes for reducing nicotine cravings as my mother became far less agitated and insistent when these were used. I would also recommend trying a zero nicotine e-cigarette while convincing them that it contained their favorite drug since placebos are statistically 30% effective in drug trials. My latest tactic to prevent smoking within our new flat will be to fit cigarette smoke detectors and post no smoking signs around the flat. These smoke detectors are more expensive than regular smoke detectors, but well worth the peace of mind. To those who say how cruel to take away this one last pleasure from her I would say, how kind is it to let her burn the place down or live with a below knee amputation. My grandmother smoked through two world wars and exposed me to this toxin living with us throughout my childhood. When she went into residential care she had to quit; now deceased proof that even heavy smokers can reach a point where they actually forget they ever smoked. Old friends who still smoke should be very strongly discouraged from smoking around someone who through dementia, Alzheimer's or the rules of residential care are being reconditioned to make the compromise and give up smoking. So few doctors will take a stand on this issue and that does not help. I try to ignore the emotional blackmail as I am prepared to set rules that will keep my mother safe while I bring alternative pleasures into her life.
all of this advice is great unless you have a mother who is able to walk to the local store to get her cigs. Taking them away is useless, she will go get more. Until recently she was careful, until she neglected to properly extinguish a cigarette and it started a fire in the trash. Her grandaughter lives upstairs, smelled the smoke and went into the apartment to investigate, finding flames in the trash. So now we have to put up signs and devise fail safe ways to make sure the but is out.Having an elderly parent that loves to smoke adds so much more stress to an already difficult situation of caring for the parent.
My 79 year old mother also likes to smoke and I recently had to move her to a memory care facility that forbids smoking any where on campus. She has late stage Alzheimers. Smoking is the only thing that she says relaxes her. I love her with all my heart and realistically understand that there is no cure for Alzheimers. I am trying to come up with a way to let her smoke under close observation only...she begs me daily to please, please let her have a cigarette. She has not had one in months...but this is what she wants to do....
Hi, I empathise with everyone. My Dad had TIA's with dementia and he died 2012. Mum's smoking and tea time drinking had been causing Dad huge stress. Dad had given up smoking years ago, but unfortunately, Mum only gave up briefly, then smoked like a trooper in their rented house, but only upstairs in her bedroom and her office. the wallpaper was magnolia colour, but when we moved Mum out of that house, the walls and ceilings in those two rooms were toffee coloured. The landlord apparently had to have the plaster removed from both rooms, then re-plastered to remove odour. We moved Mum into a smaller, tidy, easy to keep house which my partner owns and is giving Mum rent free for as long as she needs. Mum was diagnosed shortly after moving with borderline vascular dementia, but this has worsened with comprehension and short term memory extremely impaired. Mum asked could she pay and have a conservatory put on the house, so we agreed, plus she wanted to have house painted instead of the normal grey walls, so we agreed. That was 2012. We'd asked her not to smoke in the house, but she was smoking all over the house, so after burning holes in bedspread, lounge seats and setting fire to waste bin, the retained fire-fighter had made several visits when smoke alarms went off, as he lives next door, she stopped smoking in the main part of house but has still smoked in the white plastic conservatory, with door closed yet house inner door open, so yesterday, I arrived and the whole ground floor was blue with smoke. I couldn't help getting angry and saying it can't go on and is totally disrespectful to the house owner, my partner. Ironically, Mum was a landlord so she should understand how a tenant should respect the property. Mum has had two serious collapses with broken bones, unconsciousness, and hospital for weeks each time, but thank god I have weaned her off the alcohol by decanting the red wine out and replacing it with non alcoholic red wine and for five months, she was drinking this unbeknown to her, so after one blip getting bottle of real stuff and being legless, she begged forgiveness and asked for pop and with careful guidance in public situations and at home, she has not drunk alcohol for a year now. So, I created a nice notice with flowers and message asking her to smoke in garden, not in conservatory, but she kept turning that over time and time again and still smoking there. the whole conservatory has been professionally purged 6 months ago and she promised not to smoke in there, but slowly crept back inside so the plastic and glass is yellow and its like a gas chamber when I visit in the morning. The morning carer opens windows etc but mum isn't bothered. the carers and I come out with stinking clothes and last month when I had to stay a night on the living room couch, my dressing gown and bedding reeked the next day entailing washing everything. Mum's nieces will not stay at the house for the smell, so they stay in the village. I have told Mum this but it goes over her head and she does not seem bothered at all. A lady we know, bought mum two of those e cigarettes that look like a cigarette, but mum doesn't want to use them and they've disappeared. It affects her socially. I take her to my seated exercise class for social and health reasons, she enjoys the exercise, but when they all sit for a drink and chat, she often gets up saying she needs to walk around and she'll disappear outside for ten minutes for a smoke. The dementia seems to affect her ability or desire to have interactive conversation and she also seems to want to read as an excuse to avoid conversation. So.........we are ordering a cigarette smoke detector for the conservatory, we are also going to ask her to write her promise that she will only smoke outside in the garden, then she cannot deny or forget what she has promised and if she does light up inside, the alarm voice will tell her to go outside, so fingers crossed, we hope this works. When she goes for respite, they let her smoke outside in a designated area, so when she gets a permanent room there, she is insisting on a ground floor room for easy access to smoke outside. Mum's fingers are brown and parts of her grey hair are yellow from nicotine. She is on a packet of 20 a day currently and unfortunately lives next to a Spar, so easy access to buy the cigs doesn't help. the money of £42 per week does not influence her to give up the cigs, despite her low capital and I have to manage her accounts. the final straw is Mum says as she paid for the conservatory, she can smoke in there and its put value on the house, despite the fact it stinks the whole house and everything in the house, so professional cleansing along with all fabric removal including carpets and wallpaper removal to restore house to clean property. Managing Mum's life for last four years has increased in stress, not decreased, so something needs to change to protect our lives as well as hers.
Elderly smokers are usually "feisty"(angry and irrational) because they have destroyed the frontal lobes of their brain that regulate behavior. They are not in their right mind, so make the best decision for them which is to take the cigarettes today. After a while they will just forget. If there is somebody buying them you cannot control (happened to me) call a meeting and get some agreements going.
Hi every one . My mum her memories are very good she was living her self the bigs thing was she calls me telling me same one got in in to her house n stole all her staff when I get to her house she is wearing more than 10 dress on top of ech I was telling her there is nothing to worry we change lockers one morning she call me screaming telling me the man that lives upstairs on her flat was putting fire on her light I run got in her house there was nathing the light is fine so I sad las go to my house it was the Christmas time she move in my house she was lovely very thing was good she started same thing telling me there was a mans got in to the room stole her staff n she started talking to the tv swearing on TVs took her to the doctors she had scan n they said she got Alzheimer's disease but she is fine the ather day she run from me n run to main road n she whan to cross plz tell me advice
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