How to Prepare an Agreement to Care for a Family Member

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about 6 years, said...

How can I apply for cash and counselling program? who do I contact? I have been taking care of my 83 yr old mother for 15 years who has vascular dementia and a year ago, I had to quit my job to assist her every day. I am in financial difficulty I like to get some help!


about 6 years, said...

Answer for Renee Glascoe Consult your Social Security office,;I believe that if your daughter is declared disabled by her doctor, and depending on her age she can get a SS pension, medicaid and also an additional assistance, SSI. I would take her to a senior center for her to spend there at least half a day while you do some kind of part time job. Or if she is of age to get a SS pension perhaps you can get a medicaid paid care giver to come and take care of her while you go to work full and/or part-time. And you can also try to find some kind of job that she can do at home, it will be healthy for her to keep busy, this will make her mind work, maker her feel useful and will earn some income to help you..


over 6 years, said...

When receiving monies paid by a family member for caregiving, I understand income tax needs paid, would FICA taxes need to be paid on this income? If yes, how does one go about doing that?


over 6 years, said...

I've had to quit my job to take on full time care for my grandparents due to my grandfather having cancer and I need to know who I need to contact to get paid taking care of my grandparents at home in the state of Texas please and thank you.


over 6 years, said...

I live in California and I moved my grandmother in with me. I lost my job because she needs care all day. She falls and won't eat without me there. Is there a program that will pay me to care for her?


almost 7 years, said...

I have a sister who has been disabled for over 10 years, she just recently fell and broke her hip. In addition to the aforementioned she is now living independently on a walker and is unable to care for herself. I would like to assist her more regularly at least 3 to 4 days a week to prepare meals and assist with hygiene and house keeping. How can I apply to this program in order to get paid?


almost 7 years, said...

I've been taking care of my daughter with mental illness bipolar disorder & skissfrania . please guide me how I can get paid as a caregiver. My daughter Who lives with me I'm not able to go to work because I have to be with her 24/7 bad behavior . and flip flops


almost 7 years, said...

I lost my job and I been taken care of my parents. my mom went on dialysis and has memory lost. I have to be with her 24/7 she takes a lot of meds. bags changes. she stop cooking and shopping and give her meals when asked. my dad cant see with one eye and the other eye is ticking. I been home 3 years now. I would like to get paid for this I also stay up 3 nights all night all. there doctor is on board. also my mom cant stand a long time. cant walk far. I'm in greenfield, Wisconsin .


about 7 years, said...

Please guide me how I can be paid as caregiver for my mother,who lives with me and have last stage Alzheimer, Dementia and social anxiety disorder.I'm not able to go to work because I have to be with her 24/7. Social worker from Medicaid keep pushing to send her to nursing home,but she is understand mostly everything and feel comfortable at home only.Her husband passed away 2 years ago.She bound with me only.Any facility will get her much and fast worse.She is US citizen,has Medicare and Medicaid, DOB 12/19/1944.


over 7 years, said...

My dad has Cancer and I need help


over 7 years, said...

I need to know who I can contact I take care of 96 year old g ma. I need paperwork to apply for assistance and get paid because I lost my job and am her main provider.


almost 8 years, said...

I take care of my aunt who needs around the clock care. I just had to quit my job to make sure she receives the proper care. Can I get paid to take care of her and how?


almost 8 years, said...

Hello yes my mom is a diabetic and also has a pacemaker and her heart I have to take care of her & also my brother he had a manager operation on his head permanent disability a little slow now he can speak ride bike but he can get really angry and loud!


about 8 years, said...

Do I claim income from funds received from any source to take care of my disabled adult


about 8 years, said...

If I have a job do I need to fill out a Supplementary Employment Request Form?


over 8 years, said...

What if mother in law cannot understand and we have POA


over 8 years, said...

How doesa family caregiverpay taxes and pay into social security?


over 8 years, said...

My mom have bad bad back pain and she have seizures and I am the one she would won't to take care of her sometimes she can't walk she is 42 yard old. I need help what can I do how can I get payed. Now to help her


over 8 years, said...

My mother owns her own home. Has a disabled son she has left the home to in her will. No one disputes this. My mom was in a nursing home for over 2 years and hated it. I took her out. She lives with my husband and I full time. My daughter comes over 5 hours a day to tend to her grandmothers needs. My mom pays her weekly. She does not want to go into the Nursing home again. Is this legal? If mom had to go back into a nursing home would they try to take the home away from my disabled brother?


about 9 years, said...

If the person I'm power of attorney for needs to go to a home will Medicaid take her house it? She has left her home to me and is in need of repairs. she has no savings or anything like it. How will she be able to pay for the nursing home?


about 9 years, said...

you will have to claim this income on your taxes along with figuring social security.


over 9 years, said...

If there were a template to follow for preparing the Service Agreement


over 9 years, said...

Anyone who uses a form-based caregiver agreement should beware that state Medicaid rules vary from state to state as to what they require. For instance, states like North Carolina, Georgia and Louisiana have specific rules in their Medicaid manuals. Failure to incorporate those provisions will invalidate the contract and Medicaid will treat all transfers of assets under the contract as penalty-causing gifts. This could create a significant penalty period for long-term care Medicaid eligibility. We use the TrabaCare service to oversee our contracts for compliance purposes.


almost 10 years, said...

Hello, To locate a rough draft or personal care agreement forms, a good model, along with clear, easy-to-follow explanations, the article recommends the Elder Care Agreement (Form 85) in the book [101 Law Forms for Personal Use](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1413316344/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&linkCode=as2) by Ralph Warner and Robin Leonard (Nolo), which is available in both hard copy and electronic versions.


almost 10 years, said...

Where can I find a rough draft of a personal care agreement? I would like to type it myself but an outline would be most helpful.


almost 10 years, said...

can a poa sigh the personal care agreement ?


over 10 years, said...

I am a very understanding person who cares for my wife, mother, which is in a rehab center and both, I and my wife, which is her mother , daughter, cares about her mother a lot and she thinks she is not getting the right care at the place she is at and we have been in the place always when we go to visit and we saw things which we did not like and they the people do not care when we say something to them at this place and when we try to let her , my wife , brother and other sister know what is going on they do not care, they think that we are wrong to say anything, see myself I have been around this kind of things when my mother was working for the places like this and when my family members was in these places too and I saw what was what and we care about our well being of our family members and I do care about my wife, mothers care daily and I am not going to let people abuse her when I am around and if they do not want to care for her right , so please gave me or us a answer what we can do


over 10 years, said...

Is it possible to be paid for the 24-hour care my daughter and I provided my grandmother from October 2009 to July 15, 2010? There had been some discussion among my siblings and I about my daughter and I receiving payment, but not as much as I could receive as a practicing nurse. Additionally, I lost my job in January of 2010 because I couldn't get a family medical leave of absence (FMLA) quickly enough. I had missed work on days when my daughter was concerned she couldn't properly care for Grandma while I was gone. My grandmother has now passed away, and I am being forced to leave her home; but I don't have the money to move and am now separated from my husband.


over 10 years, said...

someone providing the truth, giving us the information to benefit my mother, she has ALS and MEDICAID is a big fat mess pile. Thank you, Yvette


almost 11 years, said...

Hello, For additional information on the Cash and Counseling Program in your local area see: http://www.caring.com/local/area-agency-on-aging . Thanks!


almost 11 years, said...

the video on a previous page says there should be info on documents are needed to apply for the cash and counseling. I am having problems finding it. please help. I am just not finding all the answers I need to get started on financial help.


almost 11 years, said...

The link to Ralph Warner's book is now fixed. Thank you for letting us know.


almost 11 years, said...

Link to book by Ralph Warner gives Page Not Found Error :(


about 11 years, said...

I work for kaiser home health and l work for three elderly people threw them. Two of my clients are family members. l been working there for almost 7 years and l still get paid 10 an hour. l wish l can get paid working for myself, be my own boss and get paid more


over 11 years, said...

I moved in to my fathers house a year ago to take care of him. im not getting paid for taking care of him. had part time job but cant keep it because my dad get hurts needs care and no other family members will help. im thinking of drawing up a elder care agreement. I take care 24/7. thank you .


over 11 years, said...

My grandparents live in arkansas, and both habe medical conditions. My grandpa has diabetes and has just recently had his pace maker replaced. My grandmother has had a few heart attacks and has tendeitosis, arthritis, tremors, and theu are both having to go to the doctor on regular basis. I have togrocery shop for them, go get there medication, cook, clean, do their laundry, and recently moved in with them. Iy is hard for me to take care of them while i work full time at a job that is 30 minutes away. Is there away that i can quit my job amd be paid to care for my grandparents around the clock in arkansas?


over 11 years, said...

Collective, extended, blended family agreements can and are sometimes most challenging and impact the quality of care provided for the family members. Is there an article or open dialog or discussions about family members who do not get along and whose "attitudes" interrupt the best possible care that can be provided for the family, friend, or loved one?


almost 12 years, said...

I am on a fmla for my brother can I get paid for taking care of him or how do I do this?


almost 12 years, said...

I want to live with my daugter can I just give her my SS check to pay for my room/board and care?i will be getting out of rehab soon and can no longer take care of my self I have been paying them $ 285/day for my care. Will my daughter have to claim my ss money for my living expences on her taxes


almost 12 years, said...

I am wanting to start caring for some elderly residents n a home that my fiance and I have that is a rental house. It is small but can accomadate up to 4. They will need to be minimal supervision and able to do most adl care with minimal assist. I am an LPN and will hire 2 cna's to help with this. My question is will I have to state licensed in tennessee?


about 12 years, said...

HOW CAN I GET FINANCIAL HELP FOR MY MOM TO PAY FOR IN HOUSE CARE GIVER (24 HRS- 7 DAYS). tHEY CURRENTLY CHARGE $230.00 AND IS ADDING UP FAST. MEDICARE DOES NOT PAY.


about 12 years, said...

i am a fostermom .i dont get no money for these kids they been in my home since 6/16/11.i divorce my husband to keep the kids .state dont give me nothing at.the caseworker dont try to help me at all.i bring the kids to all there dr.appt.no support from the mother of the kids.i work 5days a week .some time 7days to make sure the kids have .i love them like there mind..louisiana cpc.


about 12 years, said...

I am so thankful for this site and those that bother to share your experiences even when you have worked through your own problems. Our VA application for Aid and Attendance was denied yesterday after 13 months. I never knew I could include my care as unreimbursed medical expenses. I shall appeal the decision and pray for the best. I really really need respite more than anything and my county doesn't have the money though she is on the list for care. Recently we had to by a walk-in tub because we could no longer give her a shower. The Dr. gave us a prescription for it, I'm hoping that we can get help paying for that also. If anyone has any words of wisdom about this, I welcome your comments.


over 12 years, said...

Reference to source for boilerplate; book happens to be of even wider use, as well.


over 12 years, said...

i have afew questions,...i need to know how can i get paid to care for a family elderly 81yr. old lady..on a week bases afew days a week... because i do not work myself and it would cost me to travel about a 35 to 40mile trip to her each week. and she needs cleaning of her apt. food shopping, and alittle help bathing and proper dressing.. im on a fix income of s.s.i..


over 12 years, said...

I really needed this information my mother is currently living with my sister in Va beach. My mother just had a stroke my sister take care of my mother personal needs and care she also work away from home. Now since my mother had a stroke she is going to need some extra care. My sister really don't know what direction to go with getting extra help in taking car my mother i can't help right now because i live in stone mountain Ga.


over 12 years, said...

Hello Anonymous, Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, we do not have an online resource you are looking for. I suggest doing a Google search to find the type of template or form you are looking for. @Mary Reygout­e Thanks for your comment. Here are a few links to articles we have on the subject of being paid to be a caregiver: ( http://www.caring.com/questions/how-to-become-a-paid-caregiver), ( http://www.caring.com/questions/medicaid-caregiver-pay ), ( http://www.caring.com/questions/how-to-get-paid-to-be-a-caregiver-for-parents ). I hope that helps, take care -- Emily | Community Manager


over 12 years, said...

I live in the state of Georgia and I am a caregiver with 5 years of experience. I would like to take care of my mom who has Alzheimer's. She is eligible for medicaid and to have a caregiver. Does the state of Georgia have a program like cash and counseling so that i can take care of my mom and get paid? Please email me with information please. Thank you.


over 12 years, said...

is there a generic service agreement form easily available out there?


over 12 years, said...

The legal agreement forms


almost 13 years, said...

Hello Barbara John­son, Thanks for your comment. Here are a few links to articles we have on the subject of being paid to be a caregiver: ( http://www.caring.com/questions/how-to-become-a-paid-caregiver), ( http://www.caring.com/questions/medicaid-caregiver-pay ), ( http://www.caring.com/questions/how-to-get-paid-to-be-a-caregiver-for-parents ). I hope that helps, take care -- Emily | Community Manager


almost 13 years, said...

I have been taking care of my mother-in-law for the past two year, I am her caregiver. I am with her 24 hr of the day., I am unemployed at this present time. I need to know how can I get paid? Please e-mail with the information. Thank you


almost 13 years, said...

Hi agodlywoman, Thank you very much for your question. If you'd like, you can post your question in our Ask & Answer section, here: ( http://www.caring.com/ask ). Take care -- Emily | Community Manager


almost 13 years, said...

my friend agreed to be caregiver for her dad, with alzheimers. 11 years later, it has become a disater. he's breaking up her house, getting more violent. the only door she can lock is her bedroom. she's a court reporter and can't even lock her office. they come in and check her house all the time. she's really had it. high blood pressure, stress, etc. how can she get out of being his caregiver so he can go live in an assisted living home? thanks. we're in s.c.


almost 13 years, said...

This was very help for me. I do take care of both parent by the request of my dad.


about 13 years, said...

Thank you all so much you do not know how much the caring.com site and all the caregivers have helped me. HUGS & PRAYERS to everyone/


about 13 years, said...

Hi anonymous, sorry to hear about your difficult situation. I think calling both services would be useful, as you could probably gain a lot of information from both. You may also find this article about being paid to be a caregiver useful: (http://www.caring.com/articles/payment-for-family-caregiver) I hope that helps. Good luck! -- Emily | Community Manager


about 13 years, said...

I have 2 elderly aunts that live with me, they both have AD can I get paid as caregiver for taking care of both of them. I live in Ct one of my aunts so far has a connect card from the State of Conn Social Services Dept. She needed a new walker and when i called the medical supply store they said the medicaid card she has was a different kind of plan and did not cover that or disposable diapers that she wears? i s this true or should I call Medicaid for conn or social services to find out what she is covered for??


about 13 years, said...

It's no way for this agreement to stand on any ground when the parent's brain has already deteriated and her memory is almost gone. At the time when this agreement is needed, it's to late.


about 13 years, said...

I have written in the past couple of years concerning my mother who miraculously survived cancer at 81. Immedately following that 7 months my husbands health, both physical and even worse, mental, took a plunge. From the living hell of being held as a POW by this. Vietnam vet, I received the most dreaded phone call a mother can receive. Our 28 yr old son was injured in another state in critical condition. That was 182 days ago and I remain by his bedside. He will remain in hospital until major surgery in 6 more months. He has amazed us thus far and is truly the second miracle I have witnessed. He will be hospitalized several months after that surgery. I ask for your prayers as I deal with 3 very needy loved ones. How does one spread themselves thin enough to handle it? My most important source of strength is my faith in God. Please pray for my "baby boy" Nick. He has such a long way to go.


about 13 years, said...

Even if there is no doubt [now] about the agreement with a family member, the one thing that is virtually certain is that nothing is certain, especially looking to the future. People change their minds, remember differently, are subject to new influences. Involvement of any agency of government will cause all agreements to loose their 'humanity' and become rigid and cold, legalistic and formal. In our times and in this so-called advanced society, the giving and keeping of one's word has lost most meaning and value; and for sure, the damned courts will not give verbal agreements much credence unless both parties in a dispute agree on what was said. Involvement of courts invariably means involvement of lawyers [except in Judge Judy's courtroom!] and they can be counted on to make things more complicated and expensive - So, 'get it in writing' is a doctrine that will serve you well and never harm you unless you want to be able to equivocate later; in which case you belong with the lawyers and deserve what they do to you. This is not to say you might not need a lawyer to help you out of a jam - created by other lawyers, its just that as a class of people they have so screwed up our laws and society that honor and one's word are alien concepts to them - and the rest of us are stuck with the fallout. I noticed you wrote: "That will make the process quicker and therefore less expensive. If you do use a lawyer, it shouldn't take more than a couple of hours of the lawyer's time." I don't know your frame of reference, but with lawyers routinely charging $300-$500 an hour for Elder Care and Family law, a 'couple of hours' is damned expensive. Granted, it could save thousands later - see the comments about lawyers, and how we need lawyers to fight lawyers!! Ad infinitum!!! The two most important things I did with regard to my care for my mother was 1] Develop a written agreement with her which we called, "Agreement for Care and Shared Living" which delineated what we would do for Mom and our ability to live in her house, and what she would pay for and what we would pay for. We developed it without lawyers and it has stood up in court for five years with no challenge, though my sister has challenged virtually every other decision we made. It works best if it is signed in the presence of a Notary or other 'official' witness;which gives both the date of signing and the voluntary nature of the agreement credibility. 2] Have the party receiving care assessed for their competence by a neurologist or similar medical professional to demonstrate competence to enter the agreement. This assessment should precede attempting to create the agreement AND be followed by a repeat assessment a significant amount of time after the agreement is entered. This process is to show the person was competent to enter the agreement with 'informed knowledge' and was competent long enough after the agreement that they were not 'on the edge' of competence and/or subject to 'undue influence in entering the agreement. My experience with the legal information provided through Nolo Press is that they provide excellent support. Do not stop thinking because you use their stuff - your own mind is still your best defense! Best Regards Bob


about 13 years, said...

Hi lroberts, Thanks for your comment. I agree with The Caregive­r's Voice, your question sounds like it would be great for Ask & Answer. You can post your question here: http://www.caring.com/questions/new. Thanks again -- Emily | Community Manager


about 13 years, said...

LRoberts, you asked 2 questions: Is the income from the personal care agreement taxable to the caregiver? YES, it is counted as income and therefore subject to taxes. Is the one receiving care considered the employer regardless if the caregiver is family or not? I would think so; but it depends on your arrangement. I was my father's conservator/fiduciary and do not recall falling under an employer/ee relationship. I would recommend scanning Caring.com's 50 experts and posing this second question to the appropriate legal/financial expert.


about 13 years, said...

Is the income from the personal care agreement taxable to the caregiver and is the one receiving care considered the employer regardless if the caregiver is family or not?


about 13 years, said...

Take 2: For some reason my initial comment didn't get through. If the first three bullet points on page 1 are true across all 50 states, then this is truly a helpful guide. When my husband and I moved my father into our home, I was his POA and DPOHC. Due to the contentious relationship with my siblings, I sought a voluntary conservatorship. Despite the expense and hassle (court appearances), I wanted to feel secure that a court was overseeing everything I did. My father's heirs received quarterly and annual accountings and updates. I didn't want to fear being sued upon my father's death and this was the best route to take. You can read the details in "Where's my shoes?" My Father's Walk through Alzheimer's (forgive the self-promotion ; o ) at http://www.thecaregiversvoice.com/products-services/tcv-books/


about 13 years, said...

i take carem of my husband 24 hrs a day i cant work we cant live off his disability isnt there a program that pays me for his care giver


over 13 years, said...

I hhave been paying my daughter for the past 7 months to take care of me she quit her job in another state to come live with me i was in a Rehab for 3 months Doctors did not want me to go home without someone to help me i have had several small strokes have COPD and lost all of my strength and Fybromilga is very bad i have had to get a loan at the bank because i have went threw all my saving's i have 2 CDs but the one is not due to cash out till 8/2011 can i get any help with haveing CDs


over 13 years, said...

It let me know of options i did not know about before such as paying a family member and what states have the programs


over 13 years, said...

My sister has had POA for our mom for about 3 years yet she claimed she did not know she had it. I never did believe her but did not wish to challenge her. When we went for guardianship I learned so much about accounts and other things that I never knew my mother had because my sister never shared this information with me. Later she said that Mom had taught her how to roll over CD's etc. The attorney pointed out that my sister had several owner accts with my mom on the majority of the money and that did I know about it.? She pretended she did not realize she was co-owner and later claimed our mom did this with her on purpose. The atty. suggested to make them "as trustee" but she refuses to do so claiming that it makes it easier for her to control the money the way it is when the CD's come due. She is the Executrix and now the irrevocable power of atty because of a suspicious character our mother's age that lives with her at her home. If it were not for this person appearing to take some of mom's money, I would still be in the dark about everything. My mom now has dementia and was claimed by the court to be incompetent to take care of her financial affairs. WE did not get the guardianship but the court decided to do an irrevocable power of attorney for my sister. I went through a lot with my sister this summer and trusted her entirely until some things of suspicion started happening which would take too long to go into. I asked her to please share with me all the accounts that she knew about not just those that she supplied to the atty. for the guardianship. I then told her that we needed to get our hands on her past income taxes. I told her with her POA she would have no problem getting those. She claimed to not have them. When I phoned and told her that I was going to ask the roomer Mom lived with about them she then admitted she had the past 3 years. I was dumbfounded and told her to please send me copies. (By the way, the boyfriend my sister lives with is a CPA and she is getting advice from him and told me she was going to let him do our mother's taxes.) Also when she transferred a huge CD the other day from where my mom lived to her town which is about 1 1/2 hrs away, she claimed it was due and she would be able to get more interest for it. She did let me know what she did. When I compared what she transferred (because of the info.supplied on the guardianship papers all the interest of almost $20000 was not there. She said she did not believe I could have seen this so fast and that she was going to use that interest money in case she needed the money for emergency for our mom.. My sister already had a checking account of about $l6000. I told her if she would not mind sending me a balance sheet as to where all the money is spent and what expenses mama would have and also, to please send me a copy of the past 3 years tax returns. I got a very heartbreaking and terrible email from her saying that I was too curious and wanted to know for my own benefit etc. She is 10 years younger than me, and has always lived closer to mom than me, but I really cared for her and could not believe that she said she is not going to give me anymore information. I am now suspicious that more truth will be evident in those 1040s and 1099s. What are my rights as the first daughter (by the way I have a brother five years younger that says he trusts his baby sister and does not want to be bothered but says upon our mother's passing that everything should be split 3 ways.) I agree with this, but he does not know some of the details about my sisters actions. She is very slick. I've seen her operate and has worked in a jail with convicts for many years. She has had cancer and I told her I really need to know everything and she said that was just an excuse to find out everything. and.. why shouldn't I? Like I said the email to me was very shocking and hurtful. What should I do?and what rights do I have.? I love my mom but I cannot go to her now with her mixed up mind. She still is keen to a certain degree but it would not matter since my sister is in complete control. I have a stable marriage and a great husband that had welcomed my sister to come live with us when her CPA boyfriend was going to kick her out and we are retired and happy, except for this fiasco now. I am so disappointed in my sister, and wonder now if she has been taking money all along that she does not wish me to know about. I just cannot understand her actions. Please advise.


over 13 years, said...

I live in the state of AZ. could you please tell the steps i have to go threw to get paid from medicare a and b


almost 14 years, said...

If you make a care agreement with your parents, do you become their employee and cause them to have to pay social security taxes, etc.?


about 14 years, said...

I am looking for a care giver for my mom (24hrs)private to live in at her house,I need to know if you have any forms or an application, for the caregivers to fill out when I interview them.thanks maria


over 14 years, said...

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